Yes, James, Ariel just posted them and I will post tonight, pic's of a car being pushed up an icy hill...LOL can't wait for your clinic and lecture...at this point you could make alot of money on this one...

Are their no pics of the cars stuck on the hill and people sleeping in the road???!!!!!!!! wow!!!!

nexttime i tell yo dont go in the wilderness listen to me!!!! lol!!! Glad everyone was safe!! Good meeting Loren and Ariel!! Another snow up here tonight!!

James we are doing a version of the original hike. Thanks for the info and suggestions.

James, how are the roads to this other hike. Iknow you said there were camping areas, also, right?

Thanks Karen for forwarding the info to me. James suggested another hike that sounds awesome to me. 12 miles in and out up to Lake Conasaugo and a firetower at the top. Sounds awesome and hopefully easier to get to. I sent to K and she is looking at it.

IF there is ice anywhere I don't think we will chance anything. If we go the way James says I would still like to meet Karen b4 we get there unless it is very inconvenient for her. But K has maps I am sure she is loking at the options.

I forwarded the email to K. Thanks James, I don't have a 4wheel drive either. I think K is weighing the option of the other hike. I called your cell # and left 2 messages. So we will see what the organizer has to say.

Feeling a bit under the weather. Hiking/camping in the rain/mud/snow may not be a good idea. Sorry for last minute drop off, was holding out to see if I'd feel better.

I definately do not have a 4 wheel drive, I have a honda accord, and she is rather low!

Beth you can meet at Mansell or Blue Ridge. K is not camping so she will be returning tomorrow.

I don't care to camp. Should I meet everyone in Blueridge?

I dont think ice will be a problem its the ground is thawing out from the hard freeeze, and the roads around the wilderness are a mess and deep soft ruts!!!! If someone is taking a fourwheel drive they need to be in front oce yo reach Watson Gap!!

Low tonight 29 high tomorrow 45 for this area!! Im about 25 miles away from there!!

There should be no problem getting to Watson Gap in any vehicle but from there to Dally Gap maybe different! there is parking at Watson Gap if you have to carpool from there!! and just to be clear the route from 64 up from the north do not attempt i was there Tuesday in fourwheel drive and it was a mess! before this rain!!

when I say cars, I mean not SUVs/4WDs... to be clear. obviously we'd want to drive something. =)

this trail doesn't happen to include river crossings, no, at least not normally...... (shouldn't have any trouble on the trails). I'm nervous about driving. I'm hoping to not have to take any cars onto this road. The rain will probably help with the snow/ice that were there earlier in the week, but to get to Dally Gap, you're essentially driving over a mountain. Bill said up was ok but down was a problem. We'll have choices, but we'll be flexible.

Last night they had one of the hardest rains they've had in a while up in that area and it's still pouring now, so be prepared for mud on the trip. The roads are driveable but the rivers will be really swollen. Just doublechecking, but our trail doesn't include any rivercrossings, correct? The base of Big Frog mtn had 3 inches of snow on Tuesday. Dunno how much has melted off since or how much was up at the top, but it sounds like snow may be on the menu as well.

According to a ranger in the Cohuttas, "Weather is pretty rough for this weekend. Could be snow and ice on road before Dally Gap." He also said that there's no river crossings before the campgrounds we want to use which is good news.